Legislature(2021 - 2022)GRUENBERG 120

01/25/2022 03:00 PM House STATE AFFAIRS

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 66 ELECTIONS, VOTING, BALLOTS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
Invited Testimony by:
Paddy McGuire, Former Deputy Director, Federal
Voting Assistance Program; Former Deputy
Secretary of State, Oregon; Auditor, Mason
County, Washington
Amber McReynolds, National Election
Administration and Policy Expert; Former Election
Official; United States Postal Service Board of
Governors
+= HB 95 ELECTIONS; ELECTION INVESTIGATIONS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
*+ HB 267 CURING REJECTED ABSENTEE BALLOT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
            HB 95-ELECTIONS; ELECTION INVESTIGATIONS                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:18:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS  announced that  the next order  of business                                                               
would be  HOUSE BILL NO.  95, "An  Act relating to  elections and                                                               
election investigations."                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:18:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CORI MILLS,  Deputy Attorney General,  Civil Division,  Office of                                                               
the Attorney General,  Department of Law (DOL), on  behalf of the                                                               
House  Rules  Standing  Committee,  sponsor  by  request  of  the                                                               
governor, provided  a PowerPoint presentation, titled  "HB 95; An                                                               
Act  Relating to  Elections  and  Election Investigations"  [hard                                                               
copy  included  in  the  committee packet].    She  outlined  the                                                               
purpose  of HB  95  on  slide 2  as  follows,  "To authorize  the                                                               
Attorney General  to conduct  civil investigations  into election                                                               
law  violations  and to  bring  civil  enforcement actions  if  a                                                               
violation is found."   She continued to slide  3, explaining that                                                               
under  current statute,  if DOE  identifies suspicious  behavior,                                                               
the  only  recourse  is  a   criminal  referral.    The  proposed                                                               
legislation,  she  said,  would provide  another  alternative  by                                                               
allowing for  a civil investigation  referral as well  [slide 4].                                                               
She turned  to slide 5,  which listed  the advantages of  a civil                                                               
investigation:     halting  unlawful  behavior   efficiently;  an                                                               
appropriate evidentiary  standard for the alleged  violation; and                                                               
empowering   DOE  to   ensure  adherence   to  proper   elections                                                               
processes.    Slide  6 outlined  examples  where  parallel  civil                                                               
action  and criminal  prosecution may  occur.   Slide  6 read  as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
        • Audits of Medicaid providers may lead to civil                                                                        
      recoveries of overpayment or injunctions; and may be                                                                      
     prosecuted under criminal laws.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
       •Civil licensing actions and criminal prosecutions                                                                       
     concerning allegations of abuse or neglect at assisted                                                                     
     living facilities                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
      •Civil Child In Need of Aid (CINA) investigations of                                                                      
     neglect or abuse that may be prosecuted criminally                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLS progressed  to slide 7, which provided a  flow chart of                                                               
the proposed  complaint referral  process.  If  the bill  were to                                                               
pass, upon receiving a complaint,  DOE would determine whether it                                                               
warranted  investigation  and  either  dismiss  it  or  send  the                                                               
complaint to  the Attorney General  (AG), who has  the discretion                                                               
to conduct an investigation.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:23:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLS concluded the presentation  on slide 8, indicating that                                                               
she had elected to skip the sectional analysis [slides 8-15].                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:23:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  sought to  clarify how the  process being                                                               
created by  the proposed legislation would  change DOE's existing                                                               
authority to pursue an investigation.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MILLS  answered  that  currently   DOE  does  not  have  the                                                               
authority  to conduct  a civil  investigation  into election  law                                                               
violations.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN  sought  to confirm  that  under  current                                                               
language, DOE must  turn all civil complaints over  to the Alaska                                                               
Public  Offices  Commission (APOC)  if  it's  a violation  of  AS                                                               
15.13, as opposed to sending them to the Attorney General.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLS  confirmed that  as the  entity that  oversees campaign                                                               
finance, APOC  has its own  authority to  investigate; therefore,                                                               
the intent  is to ensure  that if  DOE receives a  complaint that                                                               
should have  been sent  to APOC,  it gets  referred there  by the                                                               
division.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN  considered  a   scenario  in  which  the                                                               
Attorney  General  becomes aware  of  activity  that warrants  an                                                               
investigation based on  the violation of election law.   He asked                                                               
what authority the  AG has to pursue that  investigation or refer                                                               
it elsewhere.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLS said  that in a civil context, the  AG could attempt to                                                               
conduct  a review  based on  the available  information; however,                                                               
subpoenas  could  not  be engaged,  nor  could  the  confidential                                                               
gathering of information.  Alternatively,  in a criminal context,                                                               
the AG could work with law  enforcement and utilize the tools law                                                               
enforcement has at  its disposal.  She  emphasized that regarding                                                               
a civil  investigation, without  the enactment of  HB 95,  the AG                                                               
would be  reviewing only  public records  to determine  whether a                                                               
violation could be filed.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:26:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  directed attention to the  language "upon                                                               
the Attorney General's  own motion" on page 2, line  8, of HB 95.                                                               
He asked whether that is  the operative language, which indicates                                                               
that the AG has the authority to start that investigation.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MILLS  confirmed that  if  the  Attorney General  determines                                                               
there  is  an  issue,  regardless   of  whether  a  referral  has                                                               
occurred,  then  the AG  has  the  ability  to initiate  a  civil                                                               
investigation.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN turned  attention to Section 1,  on page 1                                                               
of the  bill, which provides  that the legislation  only pertains                                                               
to complaints  filed within 30 days  of a violation or  within 30                                                               
days of  an election.  He  suggested that the language  is overly                                                               
restrictive  and asked  why the  30-day requirement  was included                                                               
and  whether  it   impacts  the  AG's  authority   to  pursue  an                                                               
investigation that may have been filed after that timeframe.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLS answered that the AG  can start an investigation at any                                                               
time.   She  conveyed that  the  language in  question is  merely                                                               
giving a  process by which  a member of  the public could  file a                                                               
complaint; nonetheless,  she pointed  out that  criminal behavior                                                               
or a violation of the law  can always be reported.  She indicated                                                               
that the  purpose of the 30-day  time limit is for  a combination                                                               
of efficiency and prioritization.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:30:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  inquired about the ability  of other states                                                               
to conduct  civil investigations [pertaining to  the violation of                                                               
election law].   Additionally, she asked about the  need for this                                                               
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MILLS  reported that  after  conducting  a review  of  other                                                               
states,   somewhere  between   20-25  have   civil  investigatory                                                               
authority at  the state  level.  She  indicated that  some states                                                               
have a board  of elections - which has  investigative authority -                                                               
rather  than a  Division of  Elections, while  others grant  that                                                               
authority to the  Secretary of State.  In response  to a question                                                               
of need, she recalled 2018,  when the division noticed suspicious                                                               
behavior in  the absentee ballot applications  for House District                                                               
16.   She explained that  at the time, all  DOE could do  was set                                                               
them aside  and hand them over  to law enforcement.   She said HB
95  would provide  the division  with the  authority to  identify                                                               
whether an issue exists and whether it should be pursued.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY inquired about  the compelling need for this                                                               
legislation.   She asked,  "Has this just  been a  bubbling thing                                                               
that came to you from the Division of Elections?"                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLS  shared her  understanding that  it's been  an "ongoing                                                               
drip" of  issues that  come up,  which cannot  be resolved.   She                                                               
noted  that  concerns  were  also  raised  during  the  signature                                                               
gathering  process.   She opined  having the  tools to  look into                                                               
suspicious activity would  help build the trust  and integrity of                                                               
the system,  as people  would know that  their concerns  could be                                                               
addressed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:36:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN expressed  his understanding  that HB  95                                                               
specifically limits the  scope to violations of  election rule or                                                               
law  adopted under  this  title.   He asked  whether  that is  an                                                               
appropriate  scope or  whether other  election laws  or rules  in                                                               
other titles should be included.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLS replied  that she is unaware of any  glaring areas that                                                               
would need to be addressed.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  pointed out  that he  did not  notice any                                                               
provision included  in the  bill that  requires DOE  to cooperate                                                               
with any investigation the AG may  choose to pursue.  He wondered                                                               
whether the addition of such language had been considered.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. MILLS  directed attention  to the  fourth bullet  point under                                                               
"Proposed  Clarifications"   on  slide   14  of   the  PowerPoint                                                               
presentation, which states, "Requires  states agencies to provide                                                               
the AG  documents needed for  investigation while  permitting the                                                               
documents to remain confidential if  they are confidential."  She                                                               
noted  that corresponding  language  was added  to the  companion                                                               
bill  in the  Senate.   She emphasized  that [the  Office of  the                                                               
Attorney General] was in support of that proposed clarification.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:38:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAUFMAN returned  attention to  the scope  of the                                                               
bill and  asked how "applicable  statewide" would  interface with                                                               
the Municipality of Anchorage.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MILLS clarified  that the  bill  would not  engage with  any                                                               
municipal  elections.     She  reiterated   that  the   scope  is                                                               
specifically directed at statewide, state-run elections.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:39:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KREISS-TOMKINS announced that HB 95 was held over.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 66 Fiscal Note DOE 01.06.22.pdf HSTA 1/25/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 66
HB 66 Testimony Combined Letters of Support 1.24.2022.pdf HSTA 1/25/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 66
HB 66 Written Testimony_Heather OClaray_01.19.22.pdf HSTA 1/25/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 66
HB 267 Fiscal Note.pdf HSTA 1/25/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 267
HB 267 Section Analysis.pdf HSTA 1/25/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 267
HB 267 Sponsor Statement.pdf HSTA 1/25/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 267
HB 267 Version A.PDF HSTA 1/25/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 267
HB 95 Fiscal Note LAW 01.14.22.pdf HSTA 1/25/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 95
1.24_Final Draft HB 95 Presentation_1.25.2022.pdf HSTA 1/25/2022 3:00:00 PM
HB 95